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Post by Raizeo Sun Oct 19, 2014 10:56 pm

Sunagakure vs Kirigakure Complaint
+ Kazekage Complaint


As it was already discussed, the Kirigakure vs Sunagakure player-event was to be omitted. This has caused the Sunagakure Jounin - Hakai, Kinsuke - to be returned to Sunagakure without any injuries, but nothing was said about the Kirigakure gates that have been destroyed by the Kazekage, nor about Kirigakure's Chuunin - Ichirou - who was almost killed by the Kazekage not being it for the admins deciding that he was able to live with those injuries. The one thing that troubles me about all of this, is that I have wasted a lot of time, trying to capture Kinsuke, and yet he was summoned back to Sunagakure without a single injury afterwards without any consequences to the Kazekage's actions. But before we go into depth of this Kazekage problem...

The Sunagakure vs Kirigakure Complaint Miles-bow(b)
"Miles Edgeworth, to your service."

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I will now proceed to explain the story behind this case, and how it all came to this complaint. There was a Tournament hosted as an event in Kirigakure. Villagers from each village were allowed to enter without any harm done to them, other than the harm done to them in the tournament by their opponent. It all went smoothly, and the tournament ended with a Konohagakure shinobi being the winner of the whole tournament. It was already too late to continue on with the tournament, as many players were already tired. So, we have decided to postpone the tournament until the next day, allowing the winner of the tournament to stay at Kirigakure, and one other Konoha shinobi who was allowed to stay by the Hokage.

But as the Mizukage logged out of the game in order to sleep, the Kazekage, who was allowed to stay at Kirigakure for one more day, has found Ryujin - one of Konohagakure's Genin - and knocked him unconscious, taking him into a house and seemingly "put Earth around Ryujin's heart", making it harder for him to breathe. Afterwards, the Kazekage discussed the plan to kidnap Ryujin, and escape with him to Sunagakure, placing the blame for his disappearance on Kirigakure. That would be fine with me, if it did not come to the point that the Mizukage found out about it.

Being a Mizukage, and Sunagakure being in a foreign country, and a foreign village, it was obvious that Jounin NPCs would track the movements of an unallied country's Kage, and so, they have tracked the location of where Ryujin was, which led to the Mizukage putting a barrier around the house, and then sending his shinobi after Kinsuke. It has come to the point that the Mizukage had to fight him himself, and succeeded in doing so, cutting Kinsuke's achilles tendons, drilling inside of his muscles and handcuffing him afterwards to bring him into the jail of Kirigakure.

Meanwhile, the Kazekage has not left the village because Kinsuke was found out by the Mizukage, and so, he attacked Kirigakure's Chunin who was supposed to escort him out of the village, which resulted in Ichirou sustaining almost fatal wounds, almost dying be it not for the admins saying that he's going to live afterwards, with those wounds.

The Sunagakure vs Kirigakure Complaint Miles-shrug(d)
"Truly, that is despicable for a Kazekage who has been given the rank, but that was enough back-story, now to the true complaint."

The Sunagakure vs Kirigakure Complaint Miles-crossed(d)
As we already said, both sides have suffered devastating damage, and I could even say permanent by the wounds. But, the complaint lies in one thing - the decision of admins trying to omit the event that took place because of the Kazekage's plans.

As I have been told, very vaguely - there were 'bits and pieces' omitted from the player-made event. And by those bits and pieces, the admins meant the injuries inflicted upon Kinsuke, and him being transported back to Sunagakure without any of these injuries that were previously afflicted on him. This is where the problem begins. The problem is that, considering the circumstances, it was the Kazekage's problem that this happened. It was already said by the admins, that the ranks were supposed to be loyal to their village, and their Kage, and that is what Kinsuke did, he followed the plans of the Kazekage without any reason to defy them by the rank rules.

In that sense, it should be also a responsibility of the Kage to accept the consequences of his actions, but as I have been told, the Kazekage - (OOCly) Bradley - has complained to the admins about the lack of 'active' ranks in Sunagakure. If he knew this, then he could have counted in the consequence of possibly losing his character's life, and the life of his Jounin, not to mention there was another rank in Kirigakure with Hakai, Sozo, who seemed to be rather active, making the arguement that there are not enough active ranks in Sunagakure null and void.

Regardless, returning to the main topic.
The Kazekage has brought the consequences of his actions upon himself by his own faults, and since the ranks were supposed to follow, Kinsuke has suffered the most because he was jailed and permanently injured.

The Sunagakure vs Kirigakure Complaint Miles-shrug(f)
"But! Since it was the fault of the Kazekage - (OOCly) Bradley - we will now discuss the second part of the complaint - the Kazekage Complaint!"

The Sunagakure vs Kirigakure Complaint Miles-point(d)
It was once publicly stated by Pokemon Bradley that he had no chance of losing the Kazekage try-out, both on the in-game OOC channel, and on Skype to several people. In order to further this so-far unclarified fact, I present evidence;

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This evidence proves that DarkRaizeo (Cadis Etrama Di Raizeo) has talked with the Pokemon Bradley (Bradley) at the time that this was posted, on Skype. It shows that the Kazekage rank was chosen through admin bias as a way to thank one of the players for bringing up the playerbase.

But, Pokemon Bradley does not realize that the rank was given to him, because of what he did, and he is proving again and again that he is not worthy of it with his actions. One time, there has been an ocassion where Pokemon Bradley has made one of the ex-admins Yoker get his verbs revoked because of what happened on the OOC. I do not have the logs, as they were lost in the times of OOC in Nindo Online, but I have a proof that it happened in the form of another Skype message which was sent to Nick. I present another evidence of what was Bradley doing while the admins did not keep an eye on him;

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The logs were too long for me to post at once, but, it shows how immature Bradley is able to act on OOC. Mind you, you can see that DarkRaizeo has posted on the OOC. It takes not even a second to write the message that was posted next by DarkRaizeo, especially in DarkRaizeo's case, and so, it shows that the players wild with Pokemon Bradley's caps-spamming have been able to post 6 message before the message was posted. That could easily be specified as spamming.

Of course, the admin Yoker tried to stop him, but only after he spammed the OOC did Pokemon Bradley stop spamming. Yoker himself can approve of this claim, as he was obviously there, seeing it happen.

The Sunagakure vs Kirigakure Complaint Miles-aha(d)The Sunagakure vs Kirigakure Complaint Klavier-laughs
"It seems that Raizeo was wrong with one thing, and that was; the Kazekage acting normally in-character."

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"Regardless, my time! Klavier Gavin entering the scene!"

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It has been proved already why exactly Pokemon Bradley has been chosen as the Kazekage, through bias, and the real reason why the conflict between Sunagakure and Kirigakure happened - no half-assed lies included, mind you. On behalf of Raizeo, I would like to ask for one or another from the admins, either preserve the fact that Kinsuke has been jailed by Kirigakure with the wounds that have been inflicted, or stripping Pokemon Bradley from the position of the Kazekage - both would be most appreciated, but that we can't do for the good of Sunagakure, unless it was to be joined with Kirigakure or Konohagakure.

But of course, I have posted a poll to see the response of the players towards this post, letting them choose as well.

The Sunagakure vs Kirigakure Complaint Klavier-damage
"Just pleaaase, darling! Don't be discouraged by the playerbase leaving with the Kazekage being stripped. Pokemon Bradley should be a big boy already, and not quit because of his own mistakes, and if some players will quit because of a Kage being stripped of rank, then be it! There are no good roleplayers that would do that, and the bad roleplayers are not needed. I trust that the server has more good players than bad players, and so it should not be a problem, darling!"

The Sunagakure vs Kirigakure Complaint Miles-object(f)
The case has been made, and explained, and so, now it's only the admin's decision to give a ruling upon this. I, personally, would be glad if the Kazekage was rechosen through a fair trial, by allowing other players to apply for it as well, giving each one a fair chance to get the rank, without any bias being counted in. Of course, if there was bias with the Mizukage's selection, then I hereby state that Raizeo has no intention of staying as the Mizukage if it has not been a fair choice. Of course, the same would happen if things will remain the same, and we will have to deal with a Kazekage which thinks about starting conflict with other villages in the Academy Years of the game.

Both can play the game of threatening to quit like Pokemon Bradley must've done to have the situation omitted because it has not gone to his advantage, and so, as Raizeo now, I say that I may quit if the Kazekage is not chosen anew.

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Post by Rock Nate Sun Oct 19, 2014 11:05 pm

To be honest, The only reason why I've done basically nothing about this situation IC is because I was told I couldn't start a war this early. So, at this point, it'd be useless to actually omit the whole situation, as it's already been spread around the whole of Konohagakure, but alas, whatever happens, happens.

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Post by Raizeo Sun Oct 19, 2014 11:15 pm

Don't misunderstand, I was told to not make wars as well, but if I see someone breaking that rule right in my village, then I am not going to stand aside and let them just because it has not started a war yet. It was clearly a dangerous intent towards Kirigakure, and so in order to PREVENT war between Konohagakure and Kirigakure or Konohagakure and Sunagakure, I had to stop the kidnapping of Ryujin.

We are still in academy years, and in order to focus mostly on the academy and the progression of the students and Genin, it would be way too stupid to start a war right now, it would take too much time, and it would completely null the purpose of ranks, since they are supposed to create RP not for other ranks, but for the players that are under the rank of Chuunin.

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Post by Magicpaper9001 Sun Oct 19, 2014 11:26 pm

I want to point out that uh, he wasn't given his rank through bias. He applied like everyone else and was accepted, Idk what Brecht was thinking, but there was no Bias on him getting us players. He asked us if he could have Jiongu threads for him helping us and we said no.

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Post by Widow Sun Oct 19, 2014 11:27 pm

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I have read everything, i can tell everyone that every single point that has been made in this topic was indeed true, i was highly against the administrator bias that took place that day, my verbs were revoked in a childish challenge due to the fact that i didn't want sunagakure to have such a terrible leader, soon enough i heard that 'Bradley' obtained the kazekage rank even before sunagakure opened and seemingly it was all because of the fact that he was the wolf which leaded the sheep and that were his 'friends' words, he even applied just to troll me, here is proof.

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My conclusion is for both to happen as it still happened, the kazekage does not deserve to keep his rank after this and that is my final verdict, let's hope that the administrators won't ignore this, my opinion is that Bradley is a player which lusts for bias from countless of era games, I however don't think Kinsuke should've deserved it, but it should be fairly done.
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Post by Sphinx Mon Oct 20, 2014 8:30 pm

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Post by Raizeo Mon Oct 20, 2014 9:04 pm

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"You thought Raizeo was going to reply, but it was me, Dio!"

No, but seriously now, sorry, but I am not going to respond to a post that is disrespectful in the first place. When filing a complaint, and even responding to it, you should focus on your grammar, and spelling. Those two factors are clearly missing in your post, and so I am not going to bother to respond to it. My mind is just not made to count in all the possible meanings of your spelling and grammar faults.

Though, I've read and probably understood one thing, that you were spamming along with Pokemon Bradley on the OOC, and so, I don't really want to respond to you either, as it would be like talking to an enraged troll.

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Post by Sphinx Mon Oct 20, 2014 9:18 pm

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Post by Raizeo Mon Oct 20, 2014 9:30 pm

I understood some of it, as I said, but then again, someone who's confident himself does not have the right to tell me that I am confident. I am a busy man, so, if you were to repair your grammar and punctuation mistakes, and it wouldn't be so easy to find one - then I may even reply to your message seriously.~

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Post by Scyrus123 Mon Oct 20, 2014 9:31 pm

Sphinx wrote:
Whilst Ichirou's name has been mentioned, that's kind of interesting how you have four starters not including the Mizukage.
Amaya, Ineshi, Goiken and Ichirou despite it obviously being spoken about by various people this was apparently competely ignored. I was personally interested to this whole situation, at first I came to a belief that maybe one of them was a EC however that wasn't quite the situation in-fact.

He said himself, I didn't even have to enquire:

Ichirou OOCs: (rookie chuunin as public persona...but nick gave me anbu set-up

Ichirou OOCs: (btw i dont think im already at an anbu level since i asked for a nerf...

Regardless of this factor, you still have 4 starters whether he should have existed in the first place is highly debatable.
Looks like you really wanted Ichirou to die. And you're completely off the topic, you're simply uttering your complaints in a separate thread. Who cares if you believed that maybe one of them was EC? And what if there are four starters not including the Mizukage? Got any problem with that? And are you just quoting what Ichi OOCed about him talking about his set-up in public[Ohhhh~ Someone's being biased.]? It doesn't change the fact that Ichirou is on rookie chuunin level, and having an Anbu set-up means I got IC anbu mask, and asking for a nerf by removing Ikazuchi since it should not be a jutsu of a Chuunin right? I remember one hitting a jounin which is a rank higher than mine with Ikazuchi. And even after learning that it takes 7 handseals, it still doesn't change the fact that it's OP enough for a rank of mine. And Ichirou didn't have problems of dying in the first place [I hope you quoted him saying "It's okay." and is even cool about since he'll create a deep root for his friends and his comrades. Wait, you didn't copy paste it? OOOOHHH Someone's being biased], since I remember wanting to kill him after the first batch of students of Kiri graduates, that is since because of various people complaining about Kiri's five starters. [So, why don't you just create a thread of your complaints against him and the other Kiri's starters?]

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